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Hayakawa did not run for reelection?

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I thought he ran and finished a weak third or fourth in the GOP primary. I'll research it further. Ken Burch14:17, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names)

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There is no prior discussion page corresponding any of the 5 article pages that are, or redirect to the same place as, this one's article. So there is no discussion of the rationale for the redirection (by thedespised cut-and-paste method, no less) of S. I. Hayakawa to Samuel I. Hayakawa.

As should be clear from Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), people usually known by initials and surname should have their WP bios titled that way, just as Bill Clinton is the article and William Jefferson Clinton the redirect.

Anyone doubting this is such a case should do some serious research; i have not, since i spent a year or so unsure whether S. I. Hayakawa and Sessue Hayakawa were different people, and a number of decades thereafter (ending today) wondering whether the former might sometimes be known as Sessue I. Hayakawa. (That is to say, if anyone called him "Samuel" within my notice, i would have remembered the fact.)

(For the benefit of other similarly situated readers, Sessue was 16 or 17 when S.I. was born in Vancouver, so father-and-son seems farfetched. [smile])
--Jerzy(t) 21:42, 2004 Jul 20 (UTC)

Senile?

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This article had included, as a matter of fact, that S. I. Hayakawa was senile. Any such fantastic charges should be removed, until authenticated. Snide jokes, based on Sen. Hayakawa's advanced age and tendency to fall asleep, should not be treated as factual. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.88.233.70 (talk) 19:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I have now requested a source to verify this claim. Since this is not a living person and I don't agree with the above user that such a claim is "fantastic", nor have I seen any information which casts doubt on the claim, I don't find it prudent to remove this yet. __meco 15:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No source has been provided, so I have removed this (and cause of death) from the article. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 20:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-merge Histories of the Articles

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Samuel I. Hayakawa

  • 01:45, 2004 Jul 9 Guanabot m (Guanaco - Robot-assisted redirect bypassing: United States Senator)
  • 03:13, 2004 Jun 23 Chrisn4255 (Add category.)
  • 06:17, 2004 Jun 22 Chrisn4255 (Add Senate table.)
  • 03:57, 2004 Apr 2 Moncrief
  • 20:34, 2004 Mar 13 KeithH (wiki Republican)
  • 19:24, 2003 Dec 31 Jengod m
  • 19:23, 2003 Dec 31 Jengod m
  • 19:16, 2003 Dec 31 Jengod m
  • 19:14, 2003 Dec 31 Jengod (bioguide, et al)

S. I. Hayakawa

  • 19:17, 2003 Dec 31 Jengod m
  • 03:05, 2003 Dec 16 130.212.118.18
  • 05:31, 2003 Aug 17 RickK (photo, expand)
  • 11:59, 2002 Nov 3 203.97.97.131
  • 13:33, 2002 Aug 27 12.144.193.66
  • 15:51, 2002 Feb 25 Conversion script m (Automated conversion)

actual time in Senate

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The panama canal treaty was passed long before he became a senator. It was a quip during an interview during prior the vote, not part of the debates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.212.38 (talk) 13:36, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article has good material on his early years and academic career, but what about the substance of his term in the Senate and his views on issues (that presumably got him elected)? --A Good Anon (talk) 02:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I was just coming here to bring that up. I did some preliminary research on that, and so far this kind of information is surprisingly hard to find. Probably because he was a one-term senator. But being a Japanese-American Republican from a large state makes him unusual. Academic Challenger (talk) 08:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did find a site called "From Semantics to the US Senate" (look it up in Google, the address isn't showing up on my computer for some reason). It appears to be a collection of interviews with Hayakawa and his friends. I don't have time to go through it now, but it should have some interesting information to expand the article, particularly about his senate career. It would also be interesting to know exactly what his reasoning was for opposing the SF students strike. I'll get to it eventually if noone's interested, but probably not soon. Academic Challenger (talk) 08:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


One of his most memorable Senatorial quotes isn't even mentioned. With a background of one of the oil embargoes, and lines at gas stations, Sen. Edward Kennedy called for "gas subsidies", for the poor. Hayakawa responded, "Poor people don't drive cars." This produced a media furor of criticism; the L.A. Times printed a derogatory cartoon, showing Hayakawa in traditional Japanese robes, committing seppuku with a gasoline nozzle. However, no more was ever heard about gas subsidies. --LCE(talk contribs) 12:19, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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As I was doing some minor edits, I found that a reference link was broken. It was this link. I'll check it time to time over the next few days and if it comes back to life I'll reinstate it.  .`^) Painediss`cuss (^`.  07:43, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Today I marked this link with a {{brokenlink}} ( [dead link‍] ) template.  .`^) Painediss`cuss (^`.  09:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

list among Asian-American congressmen?

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Last name sounds Japanese...

He is listed at List of Asian Pacific Americans in the United States Congress. — Myasuda (talk) 01:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Internment during WWII?

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Anyone know whether he was interned during WWII (they did this in Canada, too)? 96.36.104.238 (talk) 12:52, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No he was not--he lived in Chicago during the war. Only Japanese in the west coast war zone were moved out. Rjensen (talk) 13:00, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Who, what was infused with mysticism?

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This sentence needs to be explained:

"It is currently in its fifth edition and has greatly helped popularize Alfred Korzybski's general semantics and semantics in general, while semantics or theory of meaning was overwhelmed by mysticism, propagandism and even scientism."

Does this mean that Korzybski's (and hence Hayakawa's) view of semantics that is overwhelmed by mysticism, propagandism and scientism? Is there something in contrast to Korzybski's "general semantics" that instead is overwhelmed by mysticism, etc.? If Korzybski's view is free of mysticism and scientism, what is the other thing that isn't. What is Korzybski's view how is it not full of scientism or mysticism? This doesn't tell me much about Hayakawa other than he promoted somebody's views of semantics.

"General semantics" has a specific meaning. "Semantics in general" seems like a very broad area. Isn't this other thing that is overwhelmed by mysticism, etc., part of semantics in general? Furthermore, in the next phrase it says semantics and theory of semantics. Aren't semantics in general and semantics the same, or at least widely overlapping? Isn't this other thing that is overwhelmed by mysticism, etc., part of semantics in general?

In other words, do you mean that Hayakawa "helped popularize Korzybski's view of general semantics and semantics in general, rather than the existing theory of meaning, which had been overwhelmed with mysticism, propagandism, and even scientism."

Can something be overwhelmed by both mysticism and scientism at the same time? They would seem to be opposing beliefs. Do you mean that the theory of meaning had been in some instances overwhelmed by mysticism and in others by scientism? Ileanadu (talk) 00:09, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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United States Senate

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"1976 California Senate Election" I'm changing that to "1976 Elected United States Senator from California" to establish immediately it was the United States Senate. Mydogtrouble (talk) 21:39, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

nephew huh?

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"He was the nephew-in-law of Joseph Stalin in that his wife Margedant's brother William Wesley Peters was married to Stalin's daughter Svetlana Alliluyeva."

for the life of me i can't follow this reasoning…Stalin's nephew-in-law could be his niece's husband or his wife's nephew…but neither applies here…what am i missing?… 73.100.239.167 (talk) 17:56, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

removed it 148.77.10.25 (talk) 15:20, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Senator Tick Toc

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"Hayakawa exploited this with a television ad that showed an empty chair in the U.S. Senate chamber." While this is true, one of the best commercials I ever saw was Senator Hayakawa's use of a Cuckoo Clock in that commercial, calling Senator Tunney, Senator Tick Toc.Easeltine (talk) 16:02, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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