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Reoccupation by India
[edit]The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) has been stunned since India’s occupation of half a dozen strategic peaks such as Gurung Hill, Magar Hill, Mukherpari and Rechin-La Pass at the southern end of Pangong Lake because all these hills are Kailash Mountains range.
That is, in a way, India has taken the entire area of 60-70 km in its possession, on which China used to show eyes every time it threatened to stop the journey of Kailash Mansarovar.
Before the 1962 war from China, pilgrims used to go to Kailash Mansarovar from Demchok in Ladakh.
However, after the war, China illegally captured this route and closed the route of Kailash Mansarovar Yatra.
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Mt Meru vs Mt Kailash
[edit]Even though Mount Kailash (Kailasa) is known as Mount Meru(Sumeru) in Buddhist texts, they are totally different as there is a 220km distance between them. In Buddhism, Mount Meru(Sumeru) is considered as the central world-mountain [1]. The concept of Sumeru is closely related to the central Mount Meru of Hindu cosmology, but it differs from the Hindu concept in several particulars.
Climate Change Claims for Mount Kailash
[edit]Exactly what are the Wiki scientific sources for the climate change statements made about Mt. Kailash? Rminusa (talk) 22:56, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Rminusa, the climate change section carries inline citations. You can go through them. Apandeyhp89 (talk) 13:50, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 October 2023
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Please add the following text about the Panch Kailasha or five kailasha, ideally in the lede.
It is the most important peak among the group of five separate peaks in Himalayas in separate locations collectively known as the Panch Kailash or "Five Kailashas", other being Adi Kailash in second, Shikhar Kailash in third, Kinnaur Kailash in fouth and Manimahesh Kailash in fifth place in terms of importance.[1] Thank you. 111.223.76.187 (talk) 12:07, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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- ^ Adi Kailash: पंच कैलाशों में दूसरा प्रमुख धाम है "आदि कैलाश", शिव-पार्वती के इस धाम का 1990 में हुआ था सर्वे, Amarujala, 11 October 2023.
- Not done: It's not clear what it means with "important", it does not sound neutral and puffery is discouraged on wikipedia. WanderingMorpheme 02:19, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
Pipe Shikhar Kailash to Shrikhand Mahadev
[edit]In the preceding edit suggested by me please wikilink/pipe the Shikhar Kailash to "Shrikhand Mahadev. 111.223.76.187 (talk) 13:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Elevation
[edit]I am a topographic researcher. Mount Kailash on my list of wrong elevations on my site at http://viewfinderpanoramas.org/elevmisquotes.html#kailash and I have complete confidence in my claim that my Chinese mapping source, which is based on official mapping by the Chinese military, is correct. The kind of sites that cited in support of 6714 metres are not topographic sites, and many of their heights are based on old, inaccurate and unreliable estimates that have been copied down. Many of these kind of sites still claim that Ulugh Muztagh is 7723 metres high. I have checked the Chinese heights against data derived from high resolution images from U.S. satellite data, and these data are clearly consistent with 6638 metres. I am willing to debate the issue but if there are no objections I will restore the elevation to 6638 metres. Viewfinder (talk) 15:41, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Listing this mountain as part of china
[edit]By listing this mountain as a part of China, this recognizes the illegal occupation of tibat, the very least, it should be noted that the mountain is in disputed territory. 160.2.226.42 (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Mention of Pilgrims
[edit]This article talks about pilgrims from china, inda, and, Nepal, but doesn't mention any from Tibet 160.2.226.42 (talk) 21:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 5 August 2024
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change circumbulated to circumambulated 50.46.168.171 (talk) 06:05, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
GA Review
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Nominator: Magentic Manifestations (talk · contribs) 09:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: TrangaBellam (talk · contribs) 12:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Unreliable sourcing
[edit]- I cast a glance at the sources used in the section on Hinduism and the lesser said, the better:
- Source 1 (Chandra;1998) is published by a publisher of barely any repute; I cannot find anything on the academic credentials of the author, either. ~40 citations for an "encyclopedia" in 25 years do not instill confidence.
- Source 2 (Sangha;2015) and 3 (Kaur;2021) are published by Lulu.com and Notion Press both of which are self-publishing platforms!
- Source 4 is a travel-blog from Times of India, a grossly poor source, and contains gems like "Tourists and pilgrims have discovered that the air of this ancient peak amps up the process of ageing!" and "[Mount Kailas] is the point where heaven meets earth. The Google Maps vouch for the validity of this fact."
- Source 5 (Rangaswamy;1958) is decent but too old.
- Source 6 (Wisdom Library;??) is a random website.
- Source 8 (New Indian Express;2022) might be a generic RS but not in the field of art history! Use peer-reviewed scholarship!
- Source 9 (News24; 2023) is some shady news website reporting about a podcast where people claimed to have met "nine-foot-tall transcendental entities" (!) at Mount Kailash!
- Source 10 (Nalangula;2022) is a one-page "research proposal" that claims the body of an epical character to have been preserved at Mount Kailash!
- Source 11 (Allen; 1978) is decent.
- Source 12 (Bora; 2020) is published by the college where he teaches and is (practically) self-published.
This article, as it stands, is about a dozen bargepoles away from meeting GA and there is little point in not quick-failing this nomination. Thanks, TrangaBellam (talk) 12:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Maintenance template
[edit]Hi! I believe that the issues raised have been addressed in order for the maintenance templates to be removed. Open for comments from others. Pinging @TrangaBellam as well as the original placer of the template. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 09:55, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- For one, it is ridiculous to claim that Vishnu Purana is from the 2nd century BCE and the tag will stay. TrangaBellam (talk) 08:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- @TrangaBellam It has been addressed. Any other notable concerns apart from that? Magentic Manifestations (talk) 06:47, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
As there have been no further comments on this for over a month and the issues indicated have already been addressed, removing the maintenance template. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 06:33, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2024
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change circumbulated to circumambulated Pwpig (talk) 09:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
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